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23 augustus 2005

Pro-Life Pat Robertson

...just Pro-Birth, not Pro-Life

Nods to him for the pointer on this one.

Seems the Pro-Life Pat Robertson is calling for the assassination of another human being.

Think the “@%#$@#$% liberal media” is at it again, making trouble for a humble man of god? Think again. The New York Times starts off its article with this line:

Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson has suggested that American agents assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to stop his country from becoming “a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism.”

“Suggests!” you say! Clearly it's a witch-hunt! Well, it might be, if the Times hadn't quoted Robertson directly, just three paragraphs later:

“We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator,” he [Pat Robertson] continued. “It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.”

So where's the moral outrage from those self-appointed absolutists? Catholic brown-nosers? Little Calvinists in Papist clothing?

Maybe the Catholics are too busy dissecting the threat of—wait for it—hand-holding during Mass!—to be bothered with calling out murder-threats made by one of their god-ridden own.

But, I suppose, there's too much political loss associated with in-fighting to be bothered with things like a call for murder.

Speak up, folks. Tell us how Pro-Life you are, and what you're going to do, quite publically, to defend that stance.

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Wait, for a witch hunt, I thought the accused had to be an evil old hag. Oh, wait?! Check. That's right, it's the false accusations by hysterical young girls that defines a witch hunt. I think we failed that test when Pat Robertson committed the crime by calling for the assassination on national television.

As you clearly pointed out before, the right to life movement is only concerned with the shell without any actual thought. Once people start to think, they've lost. Hence their concern for Terry S, fetuses, and people who believe in intelligent design. The rest of us who can actually rub two neurons together are already lost causes to them, and not worth the protection.

Posted by: Lee(Skittles) Author Profile Page at 24 augustus 2005 6:52

Well, you blew it again. I called out against this very thing 8 hours before you posted this sanctimonious, self-serving piece of fertilizer (see for yourself on my blog). . .yet you automatically assume that I would defend Robertson.

Amazing for us to agree on ANYTHING, yet it comes as no surprise that when we do, you still manage to torque into something hateful and oppositional.

Posted by: hoody at 24 augustus 2005 18:44

I didn't really assume anything.

Except that maybe I figured that you wouldn't rage out against ol' Pat like you do about, say, a typical homo couple that loves each other.

Which part of:

Speak up, folks. Tell us how Pro-Life you are, and what you're going to do, quite publically, to defend that stance.

has you figuring i have an automatic assumption of what you'll say? I can lay odds on it if you like, in real numbers, but i wouldn't ASSUME anything definitely.

Silly me and my relativism.

Posted by: GodOfBiscuits Author Profile Page at 24 augustus 2005 20:47

Quote: "So where's the moral outrage from those self-appointed absolutists? Catholic brown-nosers? Little Calvinists in Papist clothing?"

You assumed there was no moral outrage on my part, without first checking the facts. You made an ASSUMPTION, pure and simple, yet are engaging in your tired old tradition of twisting logic, ad hom argument and ouright obfuscation so that you might hide from your own mistakes.

Posted by: hoody at 24 augustus 2005 22:01

You'll bend over backwards to issue grand apologia to your own Pope, your own church, your own GOD, for that matter, for the most egregious things, solely because they are "good guys" and not your "adversaries".

You teach your children to hate Hillary Clinton, for example, while you minimize the damage that your church's own priests have done to so many young boys.

And you wonder why I would go with the odds that you'd minimize Pat Robertson? (like you did, by the way, on your blog).

There IS no moral outrage in your blog about it. Look at your own writings. You're many times more "outraged" at me for saying unflattering things about you, your brood and your churchfolk than you are about A CHRISTIAN LEADER PROPOSING ASSASSINATION.

Just look at you.

Posted by: GodOfBiscuits Author Profile Page at 24 augustus 2005 22:08

Okay, I don't know about hoody, but I just didn't care what Pat said. Heck, I've hardly even heard of the guy.


You'll bend over backwards to issue grand apologia to your own Pope, your own church, your own GOD, for that matter, for the most egregious things, solely because they are "good guys" and not your "adversaries".

Well, duh. If you were smart, you'd bend over backwards to support the good guys too.


You teach your children to hate Hillary Clinton, for example, while you minimize the damage that your church's own priests have done to so many young boys.

You say hoody teaches hate against hillary clinton. Back that up. I want links to posts, or comments. Now.
And about the molestations: No one minimizes anything. In matter of fact, (i think) no one on our blogs has even said anything about the molestations. Therefore, how could we minimize it? Oops, gotcha.

There IS no moral outrage in your blog about it. Look at your own writings.

Listen, I don't give a smack about the Pat guy. He's an idiot. Just one of the many wackos out there trying to speak out.
BTW, i didn't hear much from you about all the death threats to Bush from liberals.
Are you saying that the Great God Of Biscuits is outraged when the Church speaks out against abortion, but not liberals MURDERING the President?


Gob, please, stop bashing the Church and its members. You really do suck at it.

Posted by: brian at 25 augustus 2005 7:15

If you were smart, you'd bend over backwards to support the good guys too.

You decide who the good guys are FIRST, then support them regardless of what they do. That's my point.

A bunch of you kids going on and on about how evil Hillary Clinton is, and hoody, parent to one of you, never steps in and says a damn thing.

Molestations:
no one on our blogs has even said anything about the molestations. Therefore, how could we minimize it?

You KNOW about them and yet say nothing? THAT, Brian, *is* minimizing it! You've swept it under the carpet because you dont' want to call out your own "good guys" for the horrors they inflicted on those kids.

Listen, I don't give a smack about the Pat guy. He's an idiot. Just one of the many wackos out there trying to speak out.

No? You should care. You don't care about someone like this, yet you'll go to extremes just to bash Hillary Clinton? What exactly has she done that makes you hate her? Or is it just because she's not one of your pre-judged "good guys" and so she must be "evil"?

Are you saying that the Great God Of Biscuits is outraged when the Church speaks out against abortion, but not liberals MURDERING the President?

Show me what American mainstream leader has called for physical harm against POTUS and I'll denounce him/her on the spot. SHOW ME.

Gob, please, stop bashing the Church and its members. You really do suck at it.

Bashing? Go read hoody's lame "denouncement" and compare the so-called "outrage" there to what he's posted here in the past.

Hell, he put more effort into crafting his new nickname for me than he did in being "outraged" at Pat Robertson.

Posted by: GodOfBiscuits Author Profile Page at 25 augustus 2005 7:48

Amazing. I have to muster the same outrage that Biscuits himself brings up.

Hopeless. In your eyes, I minimize. I have no interest in "protecting" Robertson, despite your insinuations that deep down, I don't REALLY despise what he said.

Whatever. You cannot be pleased, unless it is someone saying: "God of Biscuits is correct IN ALL THINGS."

As far as answering your other crazed raving:

-Where have I taught my children to hate Hillary? Cite it.

As for apologias for the Pope: yeah, guilty. I guess I'll just have to live with defending a man with more moral fiber than you will ever see in your lifetime.

You are the oldest child I have EVER come across.

Posted by: hoody at 25 augustus 2005 17:12

the little Calvinists were talking shit about hillary and even pulling a pat robertson, saying that they wouldn't be so upset if someone went after hillary.

And you didn't even chide them. That's called "tacit approval", hoody.

As for apologias for the Pope: yeah, guilty. I guess I'll just have to live with defending a man with more moral fiber than you will ever see in your lifetime.

Are you talking about the one who set the policy for simply moving pederast priests to different parishes without any warnings or punishments? Are you talking about the one who was "surprised" that the media made such a big deal out of something like priests fucking little boys?

I guarantee that if it were Hillary Clinton or Barney Frank calling for the assassination of Chavez, you'd be paroxysmal with Moral Certitude and Absolute Rights and Hand Of God nonsense, straining and spraining yourself to get all of the morality right.

Instead, you oppose Pat Robertson's words politely and you do offer that he "did apologize".

You're a gem, hoody. Really you are.

Posted by: GodOfBiscuits Author Profile Page at 25 augustus 2005 17:47

Yep. I've known that for some time.


I'm not even going to bother responding to your foolishness (unadulterated, as it were), save this:
You are SO intent on reading things as negatively as possible, then accuse the "other side" as it were of the same thing.

Bloody hypocrite.

Posted by: hoody at 25 augustus 2005 21:02

I am a long observer of they hypocrisy of the politico-christian agenda, hoody. that's all.

Pro-life, except after you're expelled from the womb. Pro-children, unless it affects big business or means higher-taxes. Humble, unless it conflicts with your goddamn moral superiority.

You're a relativist, hoody. If someone on your side says a bad thing, it's not as when someone you hate says it.

Posted by: GodOfBiscuits Author Profile Page at 26 augustus 2005 7:42

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